Friday, June 02, 2006

Will Nirvana Carry Over Into Future Generations?

A very knowledgeable reader of this blog Perplexio posted an objective view on what I thought about Nirvana which can be read three posts down. He went on to say this about Nirvana:


History is generally a fair judge of political/social/cultural impact. And while I do believe Nirvana will be fondly remembered, I don't know that it will ever be in the same way or to the same extent as the Beatles (although we will find out within our lifettimes).


They WERE the poster-band for grunge, and they were THE definitive grunge band-- but grunge as a musical style was incredibly short-lived (perhaps only matching psychadelia in its brevity). It's impact may have been tremendous but it was also incredibly brief.


A very interesting question to ask ourselves at this point in time is will Nirvana carry over into future generations? Their life span was short to say the least, they only lasted basically three years in the spotlight and five years from the release of their very first album "Bleach." I thought about this question for a decent amount of time and I do indeed think that they will carry over into future generations for several reasons. One reason I think their music and their legendary status will carry on is because I already hear their music being played on classic rock stations, every classic rock station I've ever listened to has sometime or another played Nirvana if not play them quite often. My mom who I would never suspect liking Nirvana can be found singing along in the car when they're on the radio and once something is labeled as classic rock on a classic rock station it remains classic rock forever. A second reason I believe that Nirvana will carry over is because I can see very young people listening to Nirvana and wearing Nirvana shirts. My brother who was born a year before Kurt died happens to love Nirvana and his friends also listen to them. Another thing I think to look at is the amount of historic bands who have this grand mystique around them that lived very brief lives. I think the two best examples are Hendrix and The Doors. Hendrix had an extremely brief career lasting only from 1967-1970, then The Door only went from 1967-1971. Both of which created revolutionary music and their front men died rather unexpectedly. Nirvana was just like these two, their music was revolutionary and at the same time their life was very short lived. Another thing playing in Nirvana's advantage is the way they are hyped up by critics, magazines like Rolling Stone worship Kurt Cobain and praise him as if he were a God. I feel as long as critics continue to aknowledge Nirvana as one of the greatest bands and or most important bands of all time then I think they will carry over. One final thing that I feel works out well for Nirvana is the mystery of Kurts death. Books and movies continue to be released based on the growing suspicion of how Kurt really died, whether it be by suicide or him being killed the clues don't seem to be sufficient to have a clear and definitive answer. This suspicion will only help the legendary status of Nirvana just like how it helps The Doors. Now in conclusion I don't feel that Nirvana will be remembered in the same light as The Beatles but I do think they will hold legendary status and will be considered as "The Next Beatles."


8 Comments:

Blogger Russ said...

Thinking about Nirvana is very tricky for me because I was a teenager when Kurt died. Nirvana was certainly one of the most popular rock bands of that time. Reason for that, I think, include:

- The no-bs attitude they brought (i.e. no gimmicks, no stage props, no sexy image). In fact, it's kind of odd how their non-look BECAME a look. That must have pissed some people off.

- The honesty in the lyrics. Kurt wasn't all concerned about girls and partying when writing songs. He wrote songs about how he felt. I think a lot of kids at the time were looking for something like that.

- The "do-it-yourself" aspect. Your average kid didn't have enough money for big stage props and fancy clothing. Nirvana showed them that it was OK if all you had was a guitar and a chip on your shoulder.

I think what I'm really getting at is that Nirvana was a huge reaction to what rock had become by the early 90s. Were they necessarily the BEST grunge group around? I'm not sure. What I do know is they were in the right place at the right time with the right album and the right single.

To completely change the subject - did you happen to catch the VH1 Rock Honors the other night? I'm sure they will be re-airing it if you missed it. If you did or do catch it, I'd love to see a review.

3:48 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

You're exactly right, Nirvana was authentic and teenagers are smart enough to see through fake bands. To me Nirvana was the best grunge band basically because I really was not a big fan of the grunge scene, I don't like Soundgarden or Pearl Jam which are basically the two other heavy hitters besides Nirvana.

And I actually did watch the VH1 Rock Honors the other night but I'm not a fan of the 80's metal thing so I can't say I like Judas Priest or Def Lepard. One comment I do have on it is that I just can't listen to Queen without Freddie, Paul Rodgers just can't bring to the table what Freddie had. He has a great voice but he doesn't have the same charisma and to me Freddie's unique voice was something that made Queen classic. To each his own I guess because many people seem to like Paul Rodgers as the new front man.

12:28 PM  
Blogger Russ said...

Yeah, the Queen situation seems to be exactly what it is - someone else singing Queen songs. He's definitely a good singer, but the songs just sound wrong without Freddie's voice. God forbid he ever try Bohemian Rhapsody. That one is completely untouchable.

12:56 PM  
Blogger Bar Bar A said...

As usual I agree with you two about Nirvana and Queen.

I miss Freddy.

9:50 PM  
Blogger Neo said...

Jeff - No doubt, they won't be forgotten. The music was just to raw and real to be ignored by history.

It's funny I dusted of Nevermind the other day and when I was playing it in my CD player it kept cutting out. Finally I yelled at the player. I said "Damn Kurt come on man!"

Then it started playing again. LOL

Peace,

- Neo

4:59 AM  
Blogger Shervin said...

I'm a big fan of Nirvana. I was born a year after Cobain's death, and I caught on to Nirvana because of the controversy behind Kurt Cobain. You can't see one music channel not spotlighting them one day or another, and people still look at them as legends.

I think that Krist Novoselic, the original bass player of the band, and of course, Courtney Love, Cobain's wife, are exploiting the band's popularity. Of course, drummer Dave Grohl got as far away as possible from being known as simply "that drummer from Nirvana". He has a successful band of his own, the Foo Fighters, and does more than just play drums.

Krist, however, hasn't been in ANY bands since and is always the only one who writes comments about the group in cd's and takes all of the interviews. Courtney too is just doing it for the money, of course.

You article if very well pointed, and I still listen to Nirvana all the time...

11:55 PM  
Blogger jb said...

I think that Nirvana will stand the test of time for a few generations. Judas Priest started a movement in the mid-seventies that basically threw out the "Blues" -completely discarded the likes of Son House, Robert Johnson, Muddy, Albert, Freddie and BB King as influences and this movement which included all the hair bands of the 80's florished. It was a fascist movement in rock in no uncertain terms which gave us bands like Iron Maiden, Quiet Riot, Motley Crue and a bunch of other pathetically worse than useless musicians who were into getting laid, getting fucked up, and making money. When they signed they cleaned up because all the broads bought their shit as well as the morons. History will scoff at the crap and when those kats die their spirits will go someplace bad. I was fortunate enough to play in a band during that period that was completely underground and intentionally the opposite of those hairband wankers. We (Snakefinger) were lean, mean, tough and funny

10:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im totally obsessed with nirvana
best music ever, and i was born in 92

12:19 PM  

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